tiagosantos said:Some cliffs are not only routinely described as pretty, but some writers go as far as calling them magnificent https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/white-cliffs-dover/
I have stood on those cliffs! They're unbelievable.
tiagosantos said:Some cliffs are not only routinely described as pretty, but some writers go as far as calling them magnificent https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/white-cliffs-dover/
Dan_Millsip said:I think all your posts are magical Mick, and this one hits the mark -- as does Kathryne's sage advice.
Thunderseed, I don't see where anyone has given any "jerky" or "harsh" comments -- what I've seen are honest replies and observations to your report. The people who have responded merely have a different perception of your report than you do -- much the same as you seem to have a different perception than probably everyone else here about the beauty of the Gulf Islands.
One comment about your plans to paddle the Broken Group -- if you don't appreciate the natural beauty of the Gulf Islands, you're likely not going to enjoy the Brokens -- it too is just a bunch of rocks with long stretches of absolutely nothing in between.
Astoriadave said:Dan is waxing ironic here. He knows the Brokens are intolerably scenic.Dan_Millsip said:One comment about your plans to paddle the Broken Group -- if you don't appreciate the natural beauty of the Gulf Islands, you're likely not going to enjoy the Brokens -- it too is just a bunch of rocks with long stretches of absolutely nothing in between.
pointbob said:Thanks so much for your report thunderseed!
tiagosantos said:Some cliffs are not only routinely described as pretty, but some writers go as far as calling them magnificent https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/white-cliffs-dover/
I did not say that you can't appreciate the beauty of the Gulf Islands. You're reading much (that has simply not been said) into what people are saying.thunderseed said:Dan_Millsip said:I think all your posts are magical Mick, and this one hits the mark -- as does Kathryne's sage advice.
Thunderseed, I don't see where anyone has given any "jerky" or "harsh" comments -- what I've seen are honest replies and observations to your report. The people who have responded merely have a different perception of your report than you do -- much the same as you seem to have a different perception than probably everyone else here about the beauty of the Gulf Islands.
One comment about your plans to paddle the Broken Group -- if you don't appreciate the natural beauty of the Gulf Islands, you're likely not going to enjoy the Brokens -- it too is just a bunch of rocks with long stretches of absolutely nothing in between.
What makes you say such things?
Also, your assumption that I can't appreciate the beauty of the gulf islands is wrong, I'm not sure where you got that from.
Not wanting to repeat myself, but in the future I should hope people act friendlier to newcomers. I actually feel turned off of ever writing a trip report again because of some of the comments I recieved. In fact, I won't ever share my experiences with you guys again, you've made me feel so bad about it. Just like you must single out the fact that my impression "isn't like anybody elses here". So what? Why are you trying to make me feel bad about that, like I'm different or wrong for sharing my stories? It's not an "essay" for you guys to critique, it's my own personal experiences. Have some consideration.
That is just SO hurtful, Rod!Rodnak Kayak said:I know we all await your next trip report, even chickensh-t John Abercrombie! :lol: He may have had the right idea, you know what I mean John opcorn: opcorn: opcorn:
Now we know why the water around Victoria is so Salty!JohnAbercrombie said:That is just SO hurtful, Rod!Rodnak Kayak said:I know we all await your next trip report, even chickensh-t John Abercrombie! :lol: He may have had the right idea, you know what I mean John opcorn: opcorn: opcorn:
Your words: "if you don't appreciate the natural beauty of the Gulf Islands, you're likely not going to enjoy the Brokens"Dan_Millsip said:I did not say that you can't appreciate the beauty of the Gulf Islands. You're reading much (that has simply not been said) into what people are saying.
I am very appreciative of all the support you have given me.Rodnak Kayak said:Thunderseed, I think I have been helpful in my previous posts for your trip plan, and supportive. As an "Elder", ie someone closing in on 60 years of age, OK, still a "youngin" compared to Dave :lol: :lol: :lol: I must say, no one really seemed to bash you , but did comment on what was kind of negative...that may just be your writing style, you may want to re-read what you put to pen here. That being said, A: Don't give up on a great forum, as it has lots of sage advice from some super experienced paddlers, even if quite a bit younger than me (again, except for Poppa Dave ) and B: You must learn not to be so thinned skinned, and not be so defensive, I think this is what brought out some "negativity" in some of the latter comments. Other than that, Pawistik was not negative, and neither was Mick, they did, though, comment on your own negative comments, as they do see the GI as a little prettier than you saw (this trip anyway).
One or two comments I will add, the emoticon is a wink, there are no poisonous seals anywhere! Unless it is the Texan Rattler Seal!
Also, in any kind of sea kayak travels, you should always have on a spray skirt, I did notice ( I think) you mentioned you kind of got swamped once or twice, that is what the sprayskirt is for! I also hope you had as a safety measure, a throw bag (of rope), a spare paddle and a paddle float, as well as a bilge pump, to "unswamp" yourself, if you capsized. I believe they are all required by law, except the skirt, that is just standard gear for open ocean paddling. Especially in a solo situation, even the most experienced have those items on board. Yeah, you have a bit to learn yet...but, as I did previously mention, it sounded like quite an adventure, and Bravo to you for sure!. I feel most of us here find a paddle in the GI as fairly "standard", and would think Clayquot Sound, or the Brooks Peninsula a bit more challenging and far more rugged.
So, please, take all of this in a positive light, 99.9% of us are all quite nice, and some like Poppa Dave, even nicer! :big_thumb
Personally I hope to see more trip reports from you, as it was indeed interesting, as even your worst "detractors" admitted, I do hope you can see that!
Maybe you should change your moniker to "Tenderfoot", just for the next few months?
I know we all await your next trip report, even chickensh-t John Abercrombie! :lol: He may have had the right idea, you know what I mean John opcorn: opcorn: opcorn:
Byron said:Personally, I'm closer to Thunderseed on this one. She just finished the most epic experience in her life. A trip that tested her physically, emotionally and mentally. She then was excited to write a trip report detailing this massive adventure and share it with others...and what does she get? Mostly criticisms and brickbats for being different than expected by the "group think". Followed by a plethora of posts justifying the comments. IMO it disrespects her individuality and experiences in favor of ones own.
Thunderseed, I enjoyed reading about your experience. It sounded like a great adventure! Not many I know would have contemplated it as their first kayak trip, let alone done it! Congrats to you! Hopefully there are more to come, perhaps none quite like the first but each with a story to tell. :big_thumb
Rodnak Kayak said:Thunderseed, you indeed have a giant chip on your shoulder. I am just not sure why...You were never bashed upon, but you perceive that, and you obviously did not re-read the posts from your so called detractors. It is a shame, all of us said we enjoyed reading your report, but only disagreed on some of your points of view, (ugly cliffs, nasty wildlife) That is opinion, and nothing more. I believe none of it was meant to belittle you or your epic adventure, which it was.
Then when you decide to put down what other people say, and insult them, well you get what you get...that is too bad...
As I said, and you admit, you have much to learn, and not just in kayaking, but also in many other areas of life.
I wish you no bad will, and hope you can one day learn from more experienced souls, that only tried to critique your report, not criticize it. You are reading it all wrong, period.
Good luck Tenderfoot, be safe and don't stop paddling, I hope you will one day arrive at your destination, which I hope is a happy and safe place.
Rodnak Kayak said:Thunderseed, I am sorry you feel that way, I have tried....but until you drop that giant chip on your shoulder, your ears and mind are closed.
Again I say, good luck, be safe, and I am sorry if that sounds like bashing, not my intention at all.
P.S. Tenderfoot was meant as a term of endearment, not an insult (or bashing) at all.
I give up! Again, goodbye and good luck....