2025 MEC in trouble and to be sold again

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“One supplier to MEC tells CityNews on Friday that the news of the sale comes as no surprise. According to the supplier, the company has not paid its invoices in months and is currently on hold in their credit department.”
Kingswood Capital is done with them now, they must still be loosing money big time. Will it ever return to their glory days?
Is REI going down too? Is this just the start for them?
Checking out some of my ancient gear from MEC this weekend and remembering all the cool stuff I bought there ages ago, and the dividends I got when they were making money. Wow wtf happened? Mismanagement squared!!
I have to say that I really didn’t see much change in the last five years.
 
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It's a tough industry to operate in. Suppliers have a lot of control regarding the pricing of products, and the cost to the retailer is going to be dictated by the volume they purchase.
Buying lots of inventory isn't so bad of a thing where gear is concerned. Some things get updated regularly and a past-season model might warrant a discount but most stuff can sit on a shelf for a season or two without really depreciating in value.
The same cannot be said of apparel, where every season the suppliers have new colorways, new styles, slight updates tools favourites, etc.
Combined with the fact that it's really hard to know how many of the odd sizes one should carry for each item a company chooses to stock, and a lot of garments go on clearance (especially the XXS and XXl sizes).
My thought is that having such a huge focus on apparel, which seems to be the case in the few MEC locations I've been in lately, has not been a good choice.
 
I think REI is in trouble and drifting far off course too. Years ago MEC had in store instruction seminars on things like bike maintenance, compass and map use, how to backpacking, and more, their own line of gear and a big rental department as well as a used gear website and an annual used gear sale at their main store. They were profitable and some years paid dividends to members. All are long gone. Lots of high end Yeti coolers now to keep my beer cold when I go backpacking or kayaking though, while I stretch out in my fashionable yoga pants.
 
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It's a tough industry to operate in. Suppliers have a lot of control regarding the pricing of products, and the cost to the retailer is going to be dictated by the volume they purchase.
Buying lots of inventory isn't so bad of a thing where gear is concerned. Some things get updated regularly and a past-season model might warrant a discount but most stuff can sit on a shelf for a season or two without really depreciating in value.
The same cannot be said of apparel, where every season the suppliers have new colorways, new styles, slight updates tools favourites, etc.
Combined with the fact that it's really hard to know how many of the odd sizes one should carry for each item a company chooses to stock, and a lot of garments go on clearance (especially the XXS and XXl sizes).
My thought is that having such a huge focus on apparel, which seems to be the case in the few MEC locations I've been in lately, has not been a good choice.

I've vented elsewhere on the forum about how p*ssed I was when MEC, the co-op, was sold without the knowledge or consent of its member-owners, and how for that reason, I will never buy from the new entity, Mountain Equipment Company.

So just to focus on the apparel aspect for a moment, purely from a mercenary, for-profit retailing perspective: as you noted, super-expensive tech gear, such as performance kayaks, may sit in inventory for a year or two or more before being sold, meaning the retailer's money is tied up for that time. With apparel, if the company's buyers have done a reasonable job of forecasting, it mostly sells out each season, so the company makes full margin on it, and can reinvest that money in new apparel, sell that at a profit, and continue the process. In retailer jargon, that means they can get two or perhaps three "turns" on that money in a year, compared to perhaps one "turn" or less on items like kayaks. So basically, even in shops that sell serious tech gear, it's the fleece and Gore-Tex what pays the bills. Having the serious tech gear can lend a halo effect to the store: Even among aspirational buyers who will never go ice climbing, they may find the fact that their store stocks ice axes lends cred to the Gore-Tex as real outdoor gear.

The challenge, especially for the small independent specialty retailers*, is to stock enough of the smaller ticket, higher-turn stuff that they're still around to help you when you want to buy the bigger-ticket, slower-turn items such as sea kayaks. It's a very tough balance to achieve.

* an interest to declare: the nice folks who own Jericho Beach Kayak, where I guide and teach, also own Coast Outdoors, one of those small independent outdoor retailers. I gotta stress my ramblings here are entirely my own - I am in no way a spokesmammal for Coast Outdoors.
 
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@kayakwriter all very true and well explained. One downside to those higher turnover items is that they are usually smaller items from well recognized brands. I.e. perfect for online shopping. What would motivate me to go into an MEC store versus shopping online? Or put another way, what sets MEC apart from so many other retailers, both online and physical?

The Yeti cooler is a great example. It's a known brand, and retailers almost certainly have to adhere to MAP to establish pricing, so there's no reason to buy from any particular retailer over another. If the store doesn't host seminars, or repair clinics, or the like, why not just order online or from any other store?

Building loyalty with customers is tough, and I think MEC lost a lot of that other the years.
 
@kayakwriter all very true and well explained. One downside to those higher turnover items is that they are usually smaller items from well recognized brands. I.e. perfect for online shopping. What would motivate me to go into an MEC store versus shopping online? Or put another way, what sets MEC apart from so many other retailers, both online and physical?

The Yeti cooler is a great example. It's a known brand, and retailers almost certainly have to adhere to MAP to establish pricing, so there's no reason to buy from any particular retailer over another. If the store doesn't host seminars, or repair clinics, or the like, why not just order online or from any other store?

Building loyalty with customers is tough, and I think MEC lost a lot of that other the years.
So back in the day when MEC was still a co-op, and true to co-op principles, they fought MAP because they wanted to sell at lower margins. I'm leaving details vague so as to protect the guilty, but I remember an MEC buyer describing a meeting they'd had with an American Major Supplier Of Brand-Name Commodity Items Any Serious Outdoor Retailer Needed To Stock. It went something like this:

MEC Buyer: "Yeah, it's part of the co-op ethos that we're not for profit, so that's why we have been and will be selling at lower prices than MAP."

Supplier's Junior Account Rep (who was there to learn the ropes): "In that case, we won't be selling you squat, because our other Canadian retailers don't want you upsetting the lucrative apple cart."

MEC Buyer (dangerously calmly): "So that would violate Canadian price-fixing laws. Do we need to go to court on this?"

Supplier's Senior Account Rep: "Excuse us for a moment, please." (Grabs Junior Account Rep by ear, hauls them out of meeting room into hallway. Muffled yelling ensues, amid which the words "You never say that out loud!" can be made out. A chastened Junior Rep reenters with their mentor.)

Junior Rep: "So how many widgets would you like, and in what colours?"

This sort of encounter did not mean that deliveries of such commodity items to MEC didn't sometimes suffer mysterious delays while rival retailers received their products on time. But a few MEC buyers became adept at sourcing such items on the gray market. And since most warranty issues were handled directly through the MEC member service desk, customers did not miss, or maybe even know about, any "missing" manufacturer warranty.

Of course, that was back in the day when MEC was a co-op, and gave a damn about disrupting the market. As you say, for commodity items like a cooler, there aren't really reasons to stick with any particular retailer - go with what's most convenient, cheapest and/or quickest.

Building loyalty with customers is tough, and I think MEC lost a lot of that other the years.

I think this is one of the major strengths that small independent outdoor retailers can play to: MEC and its ilk try to be all things to all outdoor users. And it's not really reasonable to expect any single staff member to be an expert and active hiker, rock climber, mountaineer, ocean and whitewater paddler, cross-country, downhill and tele skier, city commuter, racing and mountain biker. Specialized independents such as your local bike shop or paddling store can fit you onto or into the right bike or kayak for your body shape and intended use, and you will be working with staff members who really do the thing you do or aspire to be doing.
 
By coincidence, just this afternoon I checked the MECompany web site for a new VHF handheld radio. On offer was a Garmin Rhino with GPS and FRS. (Family Radio Service) Finding Channel 16 for a Marine distress call may be a challenge. “The hapless paddler was found near death, clinging to his Yeti cooler”.
 
Back in the day I bought my Standard Horizon HX870 at MEC.
Well hopefully that hapless paddler has a couple of cold ones in that snazzy Yeti, while he’s looking for channel 16, though he’ll have to be careful it doesn’t get swamped when he lifts the lid.
 
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Similar news about challenges to the retail market, I just heard that REI has announced the closure of the Experiences - the part of their business where they did classes and tours and the like (including kayak lessons and tours).
Similar news about challenges to the retail market, I just heard that REI has announced the closure of the Experiences - the part of their business where they did classes and tours and the like (including kayak lessons and tours).
This is the continuance of the end of our sport in North America. The end is being initiated by companies like Current Designs, which is cutting retailers out of its profits. Without companies like MEC and REI offering beginner training, without local companies offering advanced training and kayak try-outs, who will take up recreational sea kayaking in the future?
 
Without companies like MEC and REI offering beginner training, without local companies offering advanced training and kayak try-outs, who will take up recreational sea kayaking in the future?
Dick's and Amazon and we know how that will go.
 
Isn’t Dicks kind of like Cabelas? I remember they bought out Moosejaw outdoor gear a couple of years ago and promptly shut it all down. Thinking they were a better option. They would have wrecked it anyway. Moosejaw was owned by Walmart, but still sold quality gear. Maybe Canadian tire should buy MEC, they sell the same kind of kayaks now, similar to Costco ones. They might do better selling fishing tackle at MEC.
 
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The soap opera goes on. I dont go as far back as some, but I started buying MEC back in the 1980's when it was a single store on the 7th avenue in Vancouver. There was the appearance of success with the opening of flashy new stores and expanding across the country. But they got away from their original mandate and not only expanded locations but also their product line into things that could only be described as "outdoorsy" wear. You gotta wonder if Kingswood all along just planned on flipping the whole thing by buying it for a song and liquidating assets. Too bad the previous effort to stop the buyout was unsuccessful. Here it goes again.
 
It’s so sad, I remember those 7th ave days beside Wendys in Vancouver. Wendys hated MEC people parking in their parking lot. I think in the end it will be a train wreck. I never really saw anything change since Kingswood bought it, but lately there seems to be more clearance on merchandise happening, it will be interesting this summer to see what happens. A lot of stock has disappeared, I’m waiting to see if it’s fazed out or if new stuff is coming, and how good the final sales on things will be. MEC gear and Serratus gear had some good stuff at times in the past, they always had to mess with it until they screwed it up though.
 
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It's getting tougher to buy quality sea kayaking gear. Even The Kayak Academy is not what it once was as the owners have decided to retire. MEC seems to be on it way out, but like others I was done mourning its loss soon after they sold and did the name change. REI seems to be on a similar path, but I am hopeful they will pull through. Werner sold/moved, Pygmy quit and never sold.

I miss the good old days.
 
Many local instructors from REI would send their beginning students over to our SF Bay Area club, which, along with our remaining local kayak shops, CCK, SeaTrek, and 101 Paddle Sports, have been keeping our club alive. I, too, worry about the longevity of our sport in the coming online-only retail environment.
 
I believe Kingswood bought MEC for the real estate. They'll liquidate the retail business and make a killing on the properties. Wouldn't be surprised if the original purchase deal had the property ownership going to a different Kingswood entity, while Mountain Equipment Company took on the retail operation. Just speculating, though.

At least, during their time, they put the mountain back in the logo. A small but symbolic win for us old timers...
 
I believe Kingswood bought MEC for the real estate. They'll liquidate the retail business and make a killing on the properties. Wouldn't be surprised if the original purchase deal had the property ownership going to a different Kingswood entity, while Mountain Equipment Company took on the retail operation. Just speculating, though.

At least, during their time, they put the mountain back in the logo. A small but symbolic win for us old timers...
It's pretty much standard operating procedure for Private Equity Funds to load down their acquisitions with debt (often to related companies owned by the PE), strip out any assets of value, and then abandon ship. I'll be curious to see the current MEC's financials if they ever became public, as in a bankruptcy.
 
Shedding inventory is part of it, but shedding stores is too, and I’ve not seen that in the last five years. I’ve been into the Langley store midweek many times and there are way more employees than customers. They should ditch those high end stores for cheaper retail elsewhere. Spring usually brings new gear out at MEC, some things I’ve noticed have been out of stock for a while now. It will be interesting to see if new gear appears or if fire sale prices on existing gear appear. In my opinion lots of the gear they sell is junk and I wouldn’t buy it. I don’t think their buyers are truly outdoorsy people. Who buys a Kokatat dry suit with a Pelican style plastic kayak? MEC is still very lost! Kingswood Capital did nothing except sit on the real estate for five years! That’s exactly why they never closed any stores to increase profits! They’re in it strictly for the real estate.
 
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