I have a 10" and 8" outback oven, the 8" is not the ultralight, it has a pan included. Have used the 8" for backpacking trips and baking biscuits and such. We recently started making pizza on the 10" oven, and when I say pizza I mean my wife made the dough from scratch! Mixing ingredients is easily done in a zip lock bag. We store all the ingredients in a bag, then mix/kneed them in the bag, it makes clean up much easier. Making biscuits and adding some rehydrated strawberries with sugar is always a crowd pleaser too. It's a convection system, so if it's windy and the stove isn't sheltered you will use a lot of fuel. If it's not windy it really doesn't use too much fuel. As far as excessive camping gear I also have a GSI Wok.