Toquaht Bay access to Broken Group closed

Discussion in 'General Paddling Discussions' started by mick_allen, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. Astoriadave

    Astoriadave Paddler

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    Always take the steamer. What does that cost?
     
  2. greg0rn

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    They can grab...

    I normally take the steamer, like Dave does.
     

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  3. jk

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    I joined Liam for the teleconference on the announcement about the site the other day, and the explanation for the fees is/was the band is spending multi millions on the new campsite, and the fees will go towards amenities. Also, the band will probably lose money on the temporary launch site simply because they'll have to staff the parking lot on the off-chance someone shows up. (So why not just make it free then? But that's besides the point. And I guess so is the fact the funding for the campsite is third party too.)

    Anyway, just because I can't leave well enough alone: the band reps at the teleconference had a rousing laugh at the "conspiracy" idea, and seemed to feel those rumors are finally put to rest (I was going to say I could restart them, but I bit my tongue). To be clear, I don't believe the band orchestrated the contamination closure, or at least that part would be a stretch, but here's an additional snippet from that same meeting just before the conspiracy guffaw: the Secret Beach location can be fast-tracked for construction because the campsite was already included in the official community plan, the public consultation had taken place and the design was done. Well, isn't that fortuitous happenstance in the extreme.

    I guess that's the kicker: the campsite was destined to be moved eventually, which is better than it simply being closed. But the 'cash grab' is the evolution of transforming a public forest recreation site to a for-profit private campground. When one fellow was explaining the fee, he said you can always "go elsewhere," sort of in a kindly take it or leave it kind of way, and that may indeed be the end result. His explanation was you can pay $15 just to park the car in the national park, so $20 to launch isn't extreme. Not quite. A family of four could pay $80 to launch and $70 to park for a week, then $40 a night /$280 for the week to camp in the national park. So that's $430 for the week. Or they could go somewhere free like Clayoquot Sound -- free to launch, free parking in Tofino if you look for it, no camping fees. That's a huge difference. Not to mention $430 for a wilderness tent holiday for a family is absurd. With equipment and travel costs (yeah BC Ferries!) you're probably getting close to a week at a budget resort in Cancun. And tourism is down in BC why...?

    So I think the launch is generally good news sprinkled with some arsenic, so to speak.
     
  4. Astoriadave

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    Those are high fees, for sure. Wasnt there a water taxi out of the lodge at Sechelt? Someone with the right vessel could run out of Ucluelet and make money, maybe? Could not handle all the traffic.
     
  5. Tootsall

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    We took the Francis Barkley out of Alberni last summer on a full-day, round trip to Ucuelet. It stopped both ways at Sechelt Lodge delivering kayaks, groceries, people, etc. and picking up people and "refuse". While stopped in Ucuelet I snapped this picture because the boat's name is the same as my wife's.



    As we steamed back through the Broken group we happened upon the same boat!



    I think I'd be talking to the people at Lady Rose Marine Services in Alberni about week-long parking and their price to haul a couple of boats and people to Sechelt and back. Might be worth it to save the drive to Ucuelet...or might not.
     

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  6. longhaul37

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    I'm an old paddler (67) who certainly appreciated the TB access, but I don't understand why members are getting upset about a possible "conspiracy" by the band and the mining company to implement a strategy that will benefit the band. After all, it is FN land. Here in the States, lots of people got really morally indignant when Native Americans (our designation for FN) opened gambling casinos. That's right - we thought we had the moral high ground after centuries of our proven attempts at genocide against these people. I think it's their land, and if that's what they want to do with it, that's their business - if that's truly what they decide is best for their band. They certainly learned from us that you can't trust governments or corporations (i.e. white men) if you own something of value, and they also learned political trickery from us - if that is indeed what they are doing. Perhaps you've heard of Chase, Exxon, Monsanto, Dow, Pfizer, Weyerhauser, etc.? The band's primary responsibility is to take care of their own; we're being inconvenienced and/or our dilletante noses are being tweaked. There are other places to launch, and other points of view to consider.
     
  7. Jurfie

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    I'd bet if the "white men" were proposing this, we'd still be upset. Let's not try to make this into an accusation of racism; that is irrelevant.

    Oh, and welcome to the site. :big_thumb