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 Post subject: Tying yourself to the boat - comments?
Unread postPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:49 am 
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Reading some of Freya Hoffmeister's website posts, I noticed that she ties herself to the boat.

I'm interested in this idea for solo paddling. Watching the boat float away is the stuff of nightmares. :yikes:

Does anybody have comments, techniques, etc. to share?

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:26 pm 
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In her situation, I probably would: solo, very remote, rescue would likely be impossibly delayed in the event she lost the boat on a major crossing. She often paddles sans PFD.

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 1:11 pm 
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I've been doing this for a few years, specifically for
-kayak sailing
-going through Seymour Narrows solo
-surfing at Surge Narrows solo

I use a length of 3/4" poly webbing attached to the boat behind the seat
and attached to a belt of 2" webbing via a Wichard 2673 quick release snap.

The webbing is folded over itself so it makes a coil, which is held together with a loop of elastic material.

How you attach the webbing to the kayak is less important.
I use a Wichard 2454 snap hook. A less expensive option would be preferable.

Everything is under the sprayskirt.


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I don't do it; and in moving water close to obstacles or shoreline for sure I wouldn't, but in the relatively open ocean it just might be an ok idea. I'd have to mock up several scenarios and see what the [entanglement] limitations might be in dumping and self rescue, but it does have some advantages.


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Unread postPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 1:37 pm 
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nootka wrote:
I've been doing this for a few years,...........<snip>......

Everything is under the sprayskirt.


Thanks Nootka- that's just the sort of detail I was looking for.


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Cheers John

I laugh at my hand stitching :lol:

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nootka wrote:
I use a length of 3/4" poly webbing attached to the boat behind the seat
and attached to a belt of 2" webbing via a Wichard 2673 quick release snap.

The webbing is folded over itself so it makes a coil, which is held together with a loop of elastic material.


Do you recall how long that 3/4" tether is?
I'm guessing long enough to clear the bow or stern ??


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nootka wrote:
Cheers John

I laugh at my hand stitching :lol:


Serves the purpose. Good job.

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nootka wrote:

I laugh at my hand stitching :lol:


It looks fine to me. :big_thumb
That said, pictures (like mirrors :yikes: ) are terribly unkind... :D


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Do you recall how long that 3/4" tether is?

7' 6"
I don't recall what my criteria was.

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Skookum rig, Nootka. I would guess long enough to allow you to swim/haul yourself around bow or Stern would be enough. Like Mick says, definitely no need for length if transiting rough water, and any attachment should be a quick release like Nootka's.

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I would guess long enough to allow you to swim/haul yourself around bow or Stern would be enough.

I suspect going under would be easier, if you ended up downwind of your kayak.

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Good thread. Thanks to all. More comments or details?

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I like the use of wide elastic to keep the webbing under control.

Al, sending you a PM on another matter.... (if you don't receive it let me know. First time PM'ing on this forum)


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Kayak Jim wrote:
I like the use of wide elastic to keep the webbing under control.

Nootka: Is that a wrist sweatband like the ones used for tennis?


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Unread postPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 7:42 pm 
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It's just some elastic from Fabricland. In this case 30cm wide, but anything around an inch would do.
I went looking for something similar to suspenders, but this was just some kind of common elastic.
Sorry I can't remember more; I suggest you visit the local fabric shop and see what they have.

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It's controversial - like using a tether on a paddle tied to yourself or tied to the boat. Don't want to get tangled in the line. But don't want to be separated from the boat and your gear either, Ed Gillette (who paddled non-assisted from CA to Hawaii - before GPS!) said in an article or video that he tethers himself to his boat when the winds get higher than 20 knots.

I had an attached (folded) tether for a while. Instructors hated it. They were sure it would be tangle prone. But their "environment" was mostly paddling with competent others.

If I'm out alone, and the weather turns dicy (and I can't conveniently get to shore), I think I'd tether to the boat too. But a with quick release buckle for sure.

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