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large kayak

drahcir

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I have a size large friend (6"4" 235 pounds) who is athletic, physically active etc., and a frequent white water river rafter. He has asked me to help find him a sea kayak he can fit into. Before we go charging around the vicinity, I'd like some ideas of boats in his size category. His budget will likely push him toward rotomolded plastic. There is an ad for a Prijon Kodiak about 45 miles away. Any opinion on that or any other suggestions?

TIA
 
Your friend is not all that large -- there are lots of boats that will fit him. I'd suggest starting out by visiting your local paddling shops to see what they carry and suggest for him.

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I am about the same size as your friend, and I own a Nigel Foster Shadow and a Current Designs Isle. Both are great, but for touring I give the nod to the Isle due to a larger cockpit and higher foredeck - better leg room.
 
I don't have any experience with Prijon, so I can't help much there.

What is your friend's experience level? And what type of paddling does he plan on doing (long expeditions, day trips, etc)? What boats has he previously tried that he liked? Does he prefer a rudder or skeg?

These are just some boats off the top of my head.

For rudder kayaks:
Necky Looksha 17 (17'4" x 23.75") http://www.neckykayaks.com/kayaks/touring/looksha_17_polymer.shtml
- Delta 15.5 (15'6" x 24.5") http://www.deltakayaks.com/sea-kayaks/delta-fifteen5.html
- Delta 17 (17' x 22.5") http://www.deltakayaks.com/sea-kayaks/delta-seventeen.html Can be either rudder or skeg
- Delta 18.5 (18'6" x 23.5") http://www.deltakayaks.com/sea-kayaks/delta-eighteen5.html
- Current Designs Storm (17' x 24") http://cdkayak.com/products/template/product_detail.php?IID=140&SID=b9d4747582e222ea921602babf29909b

For skeg kayaks:
- Current Designs Sirocco ( 16'10" x 23") http://cdkayak.com/products/template/product_detail.php?IID=149&SID=b9d4747582e222ea921602babf29909b
- Valley Aquanaut Club (17'1" x 22.5") http://valleyseakayaks.com/content/boats/polyethylene/aquanaut-club
- Valley Aquanaut HV (17'7" x 22.5") http://valleyseakayaks.com/content/boats/composite/aquanaut-hv-rm

More advanced boats:
- Necky Chatam 17 (17'1" x 21") http://www.neckykayaks.com/kayaks/touring/chatham_17_polymer.shtml
- Valley Nordkapp (18' x 21") http://valleyseakayaks.com/content/boats/polyethylene/nordkapp-rm There is a plastic Nordkapp

Delta Kayaks are made from thermo formed plastic, which is a little bit more expensive than roto plastic, but it's lighter.
 
drahcir said:
I have a size large friend (6"4" 235 pounds) who is athletic, physically active etc., and a frequent white water river rafter. He has asked me to help find him a sea kayak he can fit into. Before we go charging around the vicinity, I'd like some ideas of boats in his size category. His budget will likely push him toward rotomolded plastic. There is an ad for a Prijon Kodiak about 45 miles away. Any opinion on that or any other suggestions?

TIA

Prijon Kodiak is a nice boat. I'm a bit shorter and a bit heavier than your friend and I found it one of the most comfortable kayaks I've tried. Hauls quite a load of gear too. I don't think your friend's 6'4 height will be an issue in the cockpit, but I'm not an expert! Good luck.
 
Not sure what kind of trips you're planning, but for multi-day "expediton" type trips a Nimbus "Telkwa" is a great boat. I'm 6' 1"/195lbs and have used this boat for numerous multi-week trips down the west coast of Vancouver Island, Central Coast, etc. Remarkably stable in big water, easy to paddle, and tons of capacity. Not the fastest boat on the water, but we've used it for trips of up to a month without resupplying.
 
Alana said:
I don't have any experience with Prijon, so I can't help much there.

What is your friend's experience level? And what type of paddling does he plan on doing (long expeditions, day trips, etc)? What boats has he previously tried that he liked? Does he prefer a rudder or skeg?

These are just some boats off the top of my head.

For rudder kayaks:
Necky Looksha 17 (17'4" x 23.75") http://www.neckykayaks.com/kayaks/touring/looksha_17_polymer.shtml
- Delta 15.5 (15'6" x 24.5") http://www.deltakayaks.com/sea-kayaks/delta-fifteen5.html
- Delta 17 (17' x 22.5") http://www.deltakayaks.com/sea-kayaks/delta-seventeen.html Can be either rudder or skeg
- Delta 18.5 (18'6" x 23.5") http://www.deltakayaks.com/sea-kayaks/delta-eighteen5.html
- Current Designs Storm (17' x 24") http://cdkayak.com/products/template/product_detail.php?IID=140&SID=b9d4747582e222ea921602babf29909b

For skeg kayaks:
- Current Designs Sirocco ( 16'10" x 23") http://cdkayak.com/products/template/product_detail.php?IID=149&SID=b9d4747582e222ea921602babf29909b
- Valley Aquanaut Club (17'1" x 22.5") http://valleyseakayaks.com/content/boats/polyethylene/aquanaut-club
- Valley Aquanaut HV (17'7" x 22.5") http://valleyseakayaks.com/content/boats/composite/aquanaut-hv-rm

More advanced boats:
- Necky Chatam 17 (17'1" x 21") http://www.neckykayaks.com/kayaks/touring/chatham_17_polymer.shtml
- Valley Nordkapp (18' x 21") http://valleyseakayaks.com/content/boats/polyethylene/nordkapp-rm There is a plastic Nordkapp

Delta Kayaks are made from thermo formed plastic, which is a little bit more expensive than roto plastic, but it's lighter.
I'll agree with most of those,but i don't think the Valley Aquanaut Club,or the Nordkapp RM will be a good fit. I'll assume by the height that the person in question has size 13 feet, at 6'1 and 185 I have size 12 and they pretty much max out what is comfortable in those boats, while wearing neo socks only.
Prijon Kodiak should fit for size,nice big tough boat, though aparently it tracks like a freight train. Personally I am not crazy about the gigantic cockpit in the newer ones,but enough people like that.
If he is in the market for something playful and(esp at his size) somewhat tippy, he should have a look at a P&H Capella RM 166.
 
Seaward Navigator, tough, large cockpit, oodles of room for gear for expeditions, tracks well but is not a nimble boat.
 
Kodiak is big, a real gear hauler. Plastic is excellent: I have a 12+ year old boat that is still very strong. Big hatches, quite water tight. Stable in rough conditions, but also quite rollable.

Downside: as noted, it tracks stiffly in the calm, weathercocks in the wind. A rudder dependent boat for sure. Also, I'm not fond of the Prijon rudder attachment: basically, a plastic end cap/gudgeon is attached to the boat with one screw and one or two rivets, then sealed with gobs of Lexel or some such thing. Not super strong, IMHO. Then again, the foil rudder is highly regarded.

Regards,
Andrew
 
Thanks for the useful information, which I'll pass along. If he doesn't jump on a deal now, maybe we'll trek to the paddlefest in Ladysmith come spring. The nearest kayak shop to us is a small one, 45 miles away. He is too long to use the rudder system on my tandem (Seaward Gemini), but can handle the stern just fine without - haven't tried rough water. I'd have to rip out the thigh pads on my Seaward Endeavor for him to try my single with skeg.
 
So it sounds as if his problem is the same as mine: quite long thigh and leg bones. I found the rudder pedals on a Necky Looksha to be virtually impossible to use. Finally built a Pygmy Coho with the foot peg tracks located 4" further forward relative to the seatback from "design" and that works OK. I'm 6'4, 215 with size 10-1/2 feet (to my sons'...both with size 13...chagrin). They must have got their large feet from their mother. :D

Hope he finds something but make sure he spends a couple of hours in each of the testers so that he KNOWS that he has the right boat and doesn't get the leg cramps from the pedals being too close.
 
I thought I would pass this site along. There's some information on boats for the larger group.

http://danwebb.com/kayak/bigkayaks.htm

Also Wilderness Systems makes some of their boats in larger sizes. I paddle a Tempest 180 and it has more than enough legroom for 6" 1". I think that the foot room is probably maxed out at size 12.

Barry
 
Even my son and his size 13 feet will fit in my kodiak.
Not that he will get in there after being scarred for life in a too-small kayak when he was younger...
 
No one mentioned Solstice GT, nor Solstice Titan. I'm on the market for a kayak with larger cockpit and good primary stability (but not necessarily larger volume). Those two are available locally. Any comments on those? Thanks.
 
I have a CD Isle, about the same size cockpit as the Titan. I am a fan of hard chine boats, love the way I fit in this one.
I am 6'4", 240 lbs size 12 feet and 36" legs so also know how hard it is to find a comfortable boat. Would love a Nordkapp LV but there is no way I'd get in, and even if I did, I'd need the jaws of life to get out!
 
I'm 6'3 and I also have long legs..

The two kayaks that spring to mind are Current Design's Storm and also the Seaward Chinook! The new CD Storm has the new flash seat and is priced well at I believe 1600... the Chinook is a much of a muchness but in my opinion has a better design.. but is priced around 2500. Both these boats are often used for rental fleets so wouldn't be hard to find one to test paddle
 
For a big skeg boat I would try the Romany excel I have paddled it on a few trips and it behaves just like the Romany
for a ruddered boat the delta 17 is probably my favorite
I paddled the titan on a trip a few years ago wasn't to happy when I got the boat but it was great to paddle and can hold a huge amount of gear
and super comfy
I also paddle with a 205 and had no problems in the titan
 
Howdy gang!

At 6'7" and 280lbs, my choice in boats is pretty limited. My first, many years ago, was a Necky Pinta. Lovely boat, stable like a rock but needed a space the size of Texas to turn in. I recently moved back to Portland from Southern Arizona and picked up a lovely used CD Isle in Kevlar.

Its a beautiful fit for me. I have found it to be much "livelier" than the Pinta was and almost effortless to paddle. I originally found the primary stability to be a bit 'tippy' but I am not sure if that was the boat, or me having been off the water for 6 years.

Every time I take it out, it seems to settle in a bit more.

I am looking forward to the weather actually warming up (is that my Arizona side speaking?) so I can play a more with rolling and testing my limits in this new kayak.

Just wanted to share my 'big guy' experiance so far!
 
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