glcwhistler
Paddler
- Joined
- Dec 8, 2010
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We just arrived home from a overnight trip to Vancouver. We picked up some food and walked over to Crab Park ( just past Gastown) last night. It is pretty dark throughout the park, especially along the beach. There were people with their dogs and others just sitting looking out over the water.
We sat on a log and began eating, I start to look around and tent after tent starts coming into view back in the park area. I Just Googled 'Homeless in Crab Park' and started looking through some of the Courts decisions on homeless peoples rights on public land.
Now looking through the forums and seeing the new laws they are putting around Stanley Parks waters.. Why does it seem they are taking away rights from contributing people in society and giving away public space to others?
As it pertains to Kayaking.. Aren't the courts opening up a can of worms that anyone could be 'temporarily homeless' for a night, or two and set up a tent on any public park or space? Lets just say someone was to kayak into vancouver and wanted to "camp", sorry, "be homeless" for a night on either English Bay or Sunset Beach Park? Would it be safe or wise to do so? Probably not, but at this rate you really wouldn't be breaking the law, or at least have any hassle from the police?
They got rid of the flotilla of squatters in False Creek, now the parks throughout the city are open to tents? I am from the Seattle area and it is similar in certain places in Seattle proper, but certainly not all.
I am just wondering what kind of message it sends and what it does to 'No Camping' rules that have been in place and enforced for decades.
There aren't really any places in Victoria to 'camp'. Does this open up 'camping' to anyone in any public park after 7 pm and up till 9 am the next morning? Same goes for Vancouver and other shoreline areas. It just seems that the courts ruling opens up any park for setting up a tent for the night.
I also wonder what it says about paying for sites that are open to camping on provincial land? Can anyone just decide not to stay in a site and set up in any park gazebo like they do in Crab Park?
Common courtesy has fallen by the wayside throughout our modern civilizations. Have nothing to lose and you get away with things that those who have something to lose don't get away with?
I am just wondering if these rulings are opening up more issues down the road? I'd like to camp on a nice Vancouver Beach if I paddled into the area, it is like they are saying it is ok, common sense and common decency seems like the only thing not having everyone doing it. How long will that last?
We sat on a log and began eating, I start to look around and tent after tent starts coming into view back in the park area. I Just Googled 'Homeless in Crab Park' and started looking through some of the Courts decisions on homeless peoples rights on public land.
Now looking through the forums and seeing the new laws they are putting around Stanley Parks waters.. Why does it seem they are taking away rights from contributing people in society and giving away public space to others?
As it pertains to Kayaking.. Aren't the courts opening up a can of worms that anyone could be 'temporarily homeless' for a night, or two and set up a tent on any public park or space? Lets just say someone was to kayak into vancouver and wanted to "camp", sorry, "be homeless" for a night on either English Bay or Sunset Beach Park? Would it be safe or wise to do so? Probably not, but at this rate you really wouldn't be breaking the law, or at least have any hassle from the police?
They got rid of the flotilla of squatters in False Creek, now the parks throughout the city are open to tents? I am from the Seattle area and it is similar in certain places in Seattle proper, but certainly not all.
I am just wondering what kind of message it sends and what it does to 'No Camping' rules that have been in place and enforced for decades.
There aren't really any places in Victoria to 'camp'. Does this open up 'camping' to anyone in any public park after 7 pm and up till 9 am the next morning? Same goes for Vancouver and other shoreline areas. It just seems that the courts ruling opens up any park for setting up a tent for the night.
I also wonder what it says about paying for sites that are open to camping on provincial land? Can anyone just decide not to stay in a site and set up in any park gazebo like they do in Crab Park?
Common courtesy has fallen by the wayside throughout our modern civilizations. Have nothing to lose and you get away with things that those who have something to lose don't get away with?
I am just wondering if these rulings are opening up more issues down the road? I'd like to camp on a nice Vancouver Beach if I paddled into the area, it is like they are saying it is ok, common sense and common decency seems like the only thing not having everyone doing it. How long will that last?