I had assumed they were made in China or wherever they could get the cheapest labour.Pelicans are made in Quebec, but I assume that's not what we're thinking of.
Very timely post for me, thanks John! I just got back from a long trip paddling my wife's new Prijon Kodiak which has line for rudder controls. After her boat needed a cable repair mid-trip I was wondering how I'd fish a new line through the tubes in the kodiak if needed. My thoughts were that I'd need a wire to fish it and was thinking of tape or maybe CA glue; nice to know thats the method that works. Kinda ironic you need a wire/cable to fish a line that is intended to replace a cable...It's gettng more common to see Spectra cord used for rudder cables these days- mostly as retrofits in sea kayaks. I think all surfskis are using Spectra rudder lines. The THINK surfskis use Q-Powerline, a 600# test Spectra cord used by kitesurfers for rigging. It has a waxy outer sheath which is very low-friction. The Expedition Kayaks Audax boats come with 2mm Spectra lines for both steering and uphaul. Cord can be knotted so installation and some field repairs are much easier because of that. For the repair kit on trips, I have cord with thin (20-22 ga) stranded electrical wire leader attached with CA adhesive, so the replacement can be pushed through the tube if necessary. The leader just gets cut off after use.
There's no scientific basis to this, just judging by what comes through my shop, but... I'd say that 90%+ of the damage on thermoform boats is from considerable and/or unfortunate drops or hits while (un)loading / transport / storage or the like.Some people are quick to point out that a thermoformed boat is fragile or brittle, but for most of the paddling most people do, it's not really worth getting too concerned about.
Which likely has more to with either a "who cares, it's cheap" attitude, and/or lack of education...Plus I am almost envious when I see their owners just running them onto rocky beaches without any worries.
That's interesting! I was first taught that dragging any kayak onto the beach is forbidden as in "Would you drag your naked butt onto the beach". This instructor also taught us how to tie down kayaks for vehicle transport, even how to spare our backs when lifting kayaks, etc. Like you, I ultimately added keel strips to all my kayaks, The keel is the most vulnerable hull area and also likely to experience the most damage. Still, I am careful getting my kayak onto the beach.I was first taught, “Run it up on the beach; it’s just GelCoat.”
I know we’re veering off topic (when do we not?), but the most valuable lesson I received from an experienced coach years ago was this: “don’t baby your boat”. He was of the BCU “land in anger“ school and grew frustrated at us students because we flinched at rough landings and launching. I have since adopted his attitude and assume that my boats need keel-strips and periodic maintenance.
Driving into underground parking with the boat still in J cradles...There's no scientific basis to this, just judging by what comes through my shop, but... I'd say that 90%+ of the damage on thermoform boats is from considerable and/or unfortunate drops or hits while (un)loading / transport / storage or the like.
I've never owned a rotomolded or thermoform (like Delta) boat - only glass or similar composite factory boats and home-built wood core epoxy glass boats.John my sister has a few friends that paddle on the Alaska coast a lot and 2 of them told me that if you want to "use the hell out of a kayak" that Poly is the way to go, for that exact reason. I was told Yes they are heavier, but they are said to be a LOT more durable.
I have zero experience with anything but poly, so I can only say what I am told,----- but it sounds like you and several others here are saying the same thing.
The point that Leon was making when correcting me is that the 'side exit' method was dangerous if waves were around, and impractical to boot.I’d be surprised if Shawna and Leon paid full retail for their boats. I’m guessing they also had access to quality repair work.
I was the beneficiary of prodeals for 47 years prior to retirement and half retail or less was the going rate. Of course you were expected/encouraged to stick with products that you sold so pimp what you got, right? And that was usually the case but sometimes the ski/boot/boat/paddle that you wanted wasn't a product that you represented and no prodeal was available.When I first moved to Bend, some friends, who ran a Ski shop, helped me get into Fischer’s “Pro” program and all my skis were half price. If I could buy new kayaks at half price, I might think about it a little differently. I’d be surprised if Shawna and Leon paid full retail for their boats.
This. Body before boat.The point that Leon was making when correcting me is that the 'side exit' method was dangerous if waves were around, and impractical to boot.
I learned my top priority should have been to get myself on the beach safely and quickly and then pull the boat after me.